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Commissioners, do you have any questions of the witnesses? Thank you very much. Let's proceed and see if we can't finish. Next is Mrs. Tetiana Kysil. TESTIMONY OF MS. TETIANA KYSIL OF PHOENIX, ARIZONA I was bom in Poltavshchyna. I left the village of my birth in 1932. I was 13 years old. I worked there, left my parents behind, my grandfather and my grandmother as well, and they all died in 1933 from hunger. I worked in Kharkiv at the time, and I remember passing over dead bodies, walking over the dead bodies. Swollen, bloated people begged for food, and I could not bear to walk on the streets, because there were so many people there. That is all that I have to say. Senator DeCONCINI: Thank you. Do you still have relatives there? Ms. KYSIL: No, they all have died. Senator DeCONCINI: And how many died as a result of the famine? Ms. KYSIL: Six members of my family, father, mother, sister, two brothers, grandmother, grandfather. Senator DeCONCINI: All died during that period of time-'32, '33? Ms. KYSIL: Yes. Senator DeCONCINI: All because of starvation? Ms. KYSIL: Everybody from starvation. Senator DeCONCINI: Any questions from the Commission? Thank you very much, Mrs. Kysil. We appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for your testimony, and your time. My fellow Commissioners and I, I can't speak for them, but once again, I'm shaken with horror. That's what this is all about, to go through this process, and quite frankly, I'm honored to be able to take the testimony on behalf of the Commission on the Uk¬raine Famine. We will proceed our additional hearings, and have a report by April of 1988, and I thank you and would be happy to yield to my fellow Commissioners for any closing remarks. Dr. KUROPAS: Thank you, Senator. I think that the people of the State of Arizona, especially the Ukrainian-American community can be very proud of the fact that Senator DeConcini is on the panel commission. I think it's a big plus for your community and for all Ukrainian-Americans. This is a Senator who has shown great interest in the famine from the very begin¬ning and who had indeed now been to two hearings, one in San Francisco and one here in Phoenix. I personally am proud to be on the same Commission as you, Senator. Senator DeCONCINI: Thank you very much, Commissioner. It's very kind of you. Dr. WERES: I only wish to thank our witnesses for appearing here today and to concur with Dr. Kuropas's remarks. Senator DeCONCINI: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That will conclude the hearing today of the Commission, and my understanding of the next hearing—do we know the date of the next hearing? Dr. SAMILENKO-TSVETKOV: In May in Philadelphia.