Dr. KUROPAS: May I suggest that if anyone from the staff is invited by a Uk¬rainian group especially to come speak to them, that in feet the Ukrainian group be asked to pick up the expenses. We have a limited budget, and I think that Ukrainians are aware of this, and if any member is invited, that it be understood that the local group pick up the expenses.
Dr. MACE: Yes, in fact, I have traveled on that basis, and at the expense of Uk¬rainian groups, and have donated all honoraria to the Commission.
Dr. KUROPAS: Well, you don’t have to do that necessarily.
Dr. MACE: Well-
Dr. KUROPAS: I mean the honoraria
Dr. MACE: Thank you.
Dr. WERES: I have some questions.
First, are some of these items nonrecurring costs associated with setting up the Com¬mission, like G.S.A, support services?
Dr. MACE: Yes. G.S.A, support services is recurring. That includes office equip¬ment, physical plant So we will be paying G.S.A, for our office space in the Vanguard Building until we go out of existence, for example, for telephones and that sort of thing.
Dr. WERES: What’s the annualized spending rate? I mean how much money per 12 months, excluding the miscellaneous contracts and services?
Dr. MACE: Excuse me?
Dr. WERES: Well, how much money do we expect to spend in 12 months?
Dr. MACE: In 12 months?
Dr. WERES: Yes, excluding miscellaneous. I mean what’s our base spending rate that you’ve calculated here?
Dr. MACE: $200,000, which meets our allocation. However, one may subtract from that miscellaneous contracts and services, that $56,000, because that’s for unan¬ticipated expenses. We do not anticipate spending all of that money in this fiscal year. It depends on the projects that the Commission decides to undertake.
Dr. WERES: And if we have further full Commission meetings, which rubric would those come out of? Is that travel and miscellaneous research or is that miscellaneous contracting services or—
Dr. MACE: Those would come out of miscellaneous contracts and services.
Mr. MARCHISHIN: So the only Commission meeting that specifically is in this proposed budget is the organizational meeting?
Dr.MACE: Yes, but we have ample funds allocated for other meetings under mis-cellaneous contracts and services.
Congressman GILMAN: Mr. Chairman, are you planning any hearings-guess I should direct this to Dr. Mace—any hearings outside of Washington?
Dr. MACE: That is up to the Commission. I would certainly think that should be considered by the Commissioners at this meeting.
Ms. MAZURKEVICH: Excuse me. Then we, the community, would pick up the charges for the travel expenses of the Commission members?
Dr.MACE: For a public hearing?
Ms. MAZURKEVICH: Right